Robert Hart

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181 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Aug 2026 last heard 4 Aug

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Yeah, I mean, I think the fear for a lot of people in this space might be that, like, what does it take to wake up for this?
Because as I said, there's something people have been warning about for a very long time.
And even though politicians have sort of, you know, here and there paid attention...
even with legislation and whatever, like nothing has really concretely happened that has stopped any of this behavior.
And I think the fear for a lot embedded within that ecosystem would be like, well, yeah, what does it take?
Are we looking like hacking a hospital?
Are we looking at some Chernobyl type incident?
Like what...
point is it going to be enough that we can kind of sit up pay attention do something about it and then also it's not so bad that we cannot then contain it yeah so yeah i think there's a lot of kind of unease i think is how i describe it is opinions area but unease is the sentiment i get
I mean, it depends on what level.
So I think that's the thing that the transparency issue that's kind of been really shown by this is that some of the models involved, both with Anthropic and OpenAI, were not public.
They were research prototypes or being tested.
So it isn't like, at what point are we then kind of interjecting the government into this or some form of auditor?
But like it does show that, yeah, this can happen really early on in that life cycle.
And so unless there is basically sort of a glass house type transparency, which these companies will obviously bristle at, how do you really enforce that?
I mean, the alternative is we take their word for it, which again, I am skeptical naturally on.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I mean, for me, the kind of part where it comes to at what point do we consider this model, I suppose, coming under this, when you consider testing it, feels a very clear answer.
Like if it's good enough to be tested and you cannot guarantee its containment, then...
I mean, also build better sandboxes.
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