Robert Held

I don't really wanna say it, but there may be a time to escalate because if our words are not enough, if standing up and speaking out and coming out by the thousands and the millions to resist the administration is not enough, then we're gonna have to amp it up.

I just don't think that as a lawyer, I should be the one to speak about how that can and should happen.

But clearly this is a regime that is out of control, that it's using rhetoric from the 1940s and that is very dangerous.

Yeah.

Like I said, I think they feel emboldened.

I think it appears, you know, we're just seeing anecdotal evidence of what's going on.

You know, we have the videos and so forth.

We read that, you know, that the journalists, we listen to people like yourself.

But it appears that they have been emboldened and the aggression has gone up a notch or two since Miss Good's death.

And the trajectory is very bad.

I'd like to have, you know, something positive and something uplifting to say.

The only thing I can think of is that I see anecdotally just millions of people standing together and resisting.

And that's what needs to happen.

Well, in this context, I need to say that it's the journalists that help us.

And right now, it's the independent journalists such as yourself that are getting the information out to people, someone that we can trust.

And I'm not saying that just because it's you and you have me on the show.

It's the independent journalists that are putting out the information that people need to hear.

And in that context, it's journalists also that are being targeted.

And just this morning, I read a headline that a journalist, his home was searched by the government.

And I see on the streets when journalists are targeted with weapons, with the intimidation tactics, we can't have that because so many of us depend upon journalists like yourself to give us the information about what's going on.