Robert Pape
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And I had I knew Sean for a long time, for decades.
And so I called up Sean one night.
I said, Sean, you know, the number one problem that Obama is going to face when he's elected is Iran getting a nuclear weapon.
Now, this is 2008, February 2008.
Most people are not – they're focusing on beating Hillary Clinton, okay?
This is – I'm just saying.
And Sean and I agreed on that, and I said, Sean, I got an idea.
If you're really going to get real pressure on Iran, we need Russia.
We need Russia.
And I'm glad to explain why I said that.
But we need Russia.
And Sean said, well, Bob, I'm on the NATO team.
You know, Russia eats our guts.
How are we going to do that?
And I said, I got an idea.
We trade away national missile defense in Eastern Europe, which is basically a not very good system.
And I think this would actually move Putin.
And Sean said, I'll write the memo.
He wrote the memo up the chain.
That's what Obama did, 2010.