Robert Pape

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2,835 appearances 10 recordings 4 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 30 Jun

Robert Pape’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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But it's a success because Russia and China were part of it, not because we had some brilliant diplomats.
And, oh, yes, our diplomats are just so much better than all the other diplomats.
When you're in Washington, you want a job.
You know how you get a job.
You say you're the best diplomat.
Everybody else is not.
OK, I'm not looking for that job.
OK, I'm looking to what would you actually do to solve the problem?
And I'm perfectly happy being a professor at the University of Chicago who sits around, thinks about these ideas, comes up with an idea and then tries to persuade a White House that,
You know, this is a better way to go.
And I'm not looking to become that person in Washington.
And the reason is because most of the time they self-destruct and go up in flames and they end up having a disaster.
The people who end up getting a job.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, just look at over and over and over again.
Post-career, post-job.
Almost every, I mean, since the last time we had somebody successful in the West Wing was 1991.
Who's that?
Oh, Brent Scowcroft, Jim Baker, his White House chief of staff, who just died.
Colin Powell, when he was good, you put then Colin Powell back up as secretary of state.
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