Robert Pape
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Go for it.
Strategy number one is you don't reject the deal, President Trump.
You look at this as a long campaign.
You look at this as you got a problem right now and it's getting worse.
And between us, President Trump, you made it worse when you bombed Fordow.
Never say that publicly to you, but you won't want to say that publicly.
But, you know, you wouldn't be here in this room right now.
if bombing Fordow had solved the problem.
So that made the problem worse.
So we're at this yellow now moving into early red.
So what do you need to do?
You need to build an even stronger counterbalancing coalition that will have a real opportunity to build on the growing pro-democracy movement.
There is a pro-democracy movement there.
We know that the regime has just killed some tens of thousands of them, but you're not going to solve this over a day or a week or so.
You need to come up with a strategy over two or three years where you're actually going to move this in the right direction, just like happened in Syria.
So it's the model here.
would be closer to Syria, where over time, now Syria took 13 years, but over time this really did change.
And then the next step I would have said is, okay, so what's the concrete thing that you need to do?
You need not to have, as the operational counterbalancing coalition, simply this vague idea of the Abraham Accords, okay?
Because the truth is that what's happening with the Abraham Accords is there's a big contradiction inside of it once it gets serious, which is you're never going to be able to have the Saudi population, not the leaders, or the UAE population support Israel as it's conquering Muslim ground.