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Robert Pape

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PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

Go for it.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

Strategy number one is you don't reject the deal, President Trump.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

You look at this as a long campaign.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

You look at this as you got a problem right now and it's getting worse.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

And between us, President Trump, you made it worse when you bombed Fordow.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

Never say that publicly to you, but you won't want to say that publicly.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

But, you know, you wouldn't be here in this room right now.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

if bombing Fordow had solved the problem.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

So that made the problem worse.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

So we're at this yellow now moving into early red.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

So what do you need to do?

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

You need to build an even stronger counterbalancing coalition that will have a real opportunity to build on the growing pro-democracy movement.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

There is a pro-democracy movement there.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

We know that the regime has just killed some tens of thousands of them, but you're not going to solve this over a day or a week or so.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

You need to come up with a strategy over two or three years where you're actually going to move this in the right direction, just like happened in Syria.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

So it's the model here.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

would be closer to Syria, where over time, now Syria took 13 years, but over time this really did change.

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

And then the next step I would have said is, okay, so what's the concrete thing that you need to do?

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

You need not to have, as the operational counterbalancing coalition, simply this vague idea of the Abraham Accords, okay?

PBD Podcast
“NATO Is DEAD” - The Insider Who Warned 4 Presidents About Iran | PBD #795

Because the truth is that what's happening with the Abraham Accords is there's a big contradiction inside of it once it gets serious, which is you're never going to be able to have the Saudi population, not the leaders, or the UAE population support Israel as it's conquering Muslim ground.