Robert Pape
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It's just not going to work.
You're even talking about that in Gaza.
So what you need is you need to build a stronger anchor literally around Saudi Arabia and the UAE because they have the most to lose.
This isn't about Israel has the most to lose.
If you go down this counterbalancing coalition, the
governments that are going to be toppled in the next year or two are mbs and the uae so therefore as you have said president trump many times you've got to align interests and strategy who has the most to lose here
It's not Israel.
It's UAE and Saudi Arabia.
They also have covertly tentacles, society tentacles, and you can build then a stronger societal bottom-up pressure here to change the regime.
And moreover...
The Supreme Leader's 86 years old.
So what you really should be doing is not killing the Supreme Leader because that's only going to put in the tougher guys.
Let him die on his own.
And what you're playing for is to move the...
the group of clerics who's going to put the new Supreme Leader in to make it somebody who's just one notch closer to your position.
Not completely to your position, but what you want to do is have a longer-term strategy over a couple years.
I don't think that would work.
And why not?
I know you're not.
No, no, no.