Robert Pape

Sandy Berger's son was actually at Dartmouth where I taught at the time, so he was the national security advisor.

So the bottom line is, sir, that this is not the way to win.

You may think and hope to win this way, but what you're doing is you're taking a risk that's even bigger when Japan attacked us at Pearl Harbor.

When Japan attacked us at Pearl Harbor, they wanted a quick solution here.

And what happened is they unleashed a tiger, a much bigger tiger, and they got crushed.

This is the danger.

I understand the other way seems a bit slower.

It seems not distinctive enough.

But this is the way to actually win here over time.

And, sir, you just had this happen in Syria.

And you were part of this.

So it is not the case that there's no analogy that you cannot understand here, but it is not Maduro.

This is a mistake.

This is a complete mistake.

Okay.

What Rodriguez is doing is not giving you any oil, sir.

Yes, you can tell the public it's this spectacular victory, but the bottom line is you went into that wanting oil companies to pump out two or three times more oil than they said.

And the reason they're not doing that, sir, and this is on my ex account, by the way, when this came out.

is not because you didn't pick up Maduro.

It's because it is way too dangerous for those civilian contractors that go in.