Robert Pape

Oh, have I ever voted for him?

No, I have not.

No, I have not.

I voted for Republicans in the past, but not him, but not him specifically.

And I also have not always voted for the Democratic candidate.

So one of the issues, Patrick, is that.

There are times here when I haven't voted for anybody.

And the reason is because if you go back to, you just said, I'm one of the rare people here who was supporting Ron Paul, who's extreme Republican, and also Barack Obama in 2008.

What I'm doing is I'm looking for who has the best foreign policy for the country as a whole.

And there are times when nobody has that best foreign policy.

And I can't bring myself for principled reasons.

See, I'm not looking to and this is probably why I don't think I'll probably ever have an offer to become a, say, national security advisor, because I'm not doing the way you become a national security advisor is not just you talk and get on the media is you've got to be a consistent soldier.

Which that means is you always will be politically behind whatever happens.

Because I get an opportunity that very few people have had in the last 20 years.

How many people have come in here who have advised, for the presidential campaigns, a Republican who's on those stages and a Democrat who's on those stages at exactly the same time?

And how many people have had an opportunity to advise four White Houses in a row, two Republican and two Democrat?

That's just a very rare thing.

It is.

It is very rare.

For me, it's a tremendous honor.