Robert Pape

It took a couple years, but only a couple years, and then our Congress did a massive, I think it's 76-volume study of the intelligence failure of Pearl Harbor, how that was an intelligence failure.

In the middle of World War II, we did this, okay?

So we didn't wait until World War II was over.

If you just compare that,

to what we have here.

We have nothing like that coming out of Congress and this isn't like... I agree.

Well, and I just want to make the other point.

I agree.

We still want to know.

Well, it's not like we just need to flip parties here.

What I see is that we are, whether we have the Democrats running it or we have the Republicans running it here, at least with these current extremes on both sides, we're just not getting to the real information that would be helpful for the country.

I don't think this is just about, you know, I know Epstein's a big thing here, but it's not just about one thing, Patrick.

It's about so many things.

And I think that what you're describing here, getting to the bottom here, what exactly is it that we are protecting with all the sources of method?

And you're telling me we really can't redact, that we could do this during World War II?

No.

with Pearl Harbor, we really can't make a fantastic more information available to the public to understand

What happened, whether this was from a market, this was from a lab, whether we're providing the precursors to this stuff for the lab or not, why does this have to be in conspiracy land?

You see, I don't believe this must be.

And I believe that we used to operate in a world where we did massive, we put massive amounts of information out there.