Robert Rafferty

So basically, you have to leave the trap down unset in the exact position that you've left it at.

Unset is better because when they go over, they get the food off the trap.

That means then there's no sense of danger off the trap.

They love rashers.

Go on, Robert.

So basically the poison that is being used now is that it kills the rat within 24 to 48 hours.

So if they bring the poison back...

or if they brought it back to the nest or they ate the poison, they would not know what's at that point because if it poisoned them straight away, they'd know not to go near that poisoning and they're that clever and they'd say, well, one's at the going down, he's not at the coming back.

Yeah, and then they're just dying naturally.

So, but that's what we're doing here.

Now, the one that died underneath the kitchen, we got the smell and it was starting to go up into the bedroom.

Now, the difference is

that once you have a young child in the house, it's just, it's just, it's horrific.

And then plus as well, the grandmother's scooter was here, her electric scooter, and that stopped working.

And I think actually, it showed the worst in that as well.

Eh...

Yes, I would consider it very much so.

Yeah, it's just that, just let him into the shed, let him roam around.

We're actually thinking about getting...

Absolutely.