Robert Wright
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Nov 2024
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One thing that bothers me about the China Hawk discourse is I don't see many people bothering to stop and assess whether that belief is true, right?
Because if it is, right, if uh in other words, they don't they they don't look at the costs of uh of this like manic AI arms race with China, which just fundamentally
Uh affects the psychology of the relationship, radically reduces uh transparency in certain respects, um, and just generates this kind of chaotic environment where uh people are going to feel more compelled uh to get model to create models perhaps without adequate safety tests.
It seems to me pretty obvious that if you take certain kinds of threats seriously, and there's a whole range of threats you can take, and by the way, I think not enough attention is paid to the threat of sheer destabilization.
In other words, even if the sci-fi doomer scenarios aren't valid, and I don't personally rule them out, but even if they're not, if you look at all the economic and social effects that AI is already starting to have.
Um en many more of which will materialize.
It's obviously going to be disruptive, not only in the good sense of the word, it's going to be destabilizing.
And when you sign on to what you're describing as an existential arms race, you're saying, let's hasten that.
Let's accelerate the destabilization of, I would say, American society.
And by the way, one surprise for people may be that China, because of its authoritarian character,
Actually
has more of an interest in regulating the AI and not proceeding too fast and winds up as a more stable society than the US and beats us that way.
That that to me is something I'd put in parentheses.
It's not like my big concern, but um I would say that
Uh there are a lot of possible downsides to a big AI arms race with China.
And I just don't see these people exploring them.
And it's and let me I'll I'll close.
I'll I'll stop and let you talk.
But I wanna uh I wanna focus on a very specific thing um that's been kind of driving me a little crazy, uh, or the lack of discussion of it has.
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