Roderick O'Gorman

So, first of all, that's going to cost a lot.

Secondly, that's not going to be done quickly.

So, my belief is too many times in Ireland...

We have plans.

And then halfway through, we get cold feet.

So you think of the metro.

We've discussed the metro many times.

We had a plan for the metro in the early 2020-2010s.

We dropped that.

Now we're coming back to it again.

But it's just going to cost a lot more money.

We have a plan for making ourselves energy independent.

through renewables.

Let's double down on that plan.

Let's get it implemented because Irish people can get the benefit of cheaper electricity, but ultimately the protection from the price spikes that we've experienced now in the war in Iran and only four years ago with the war in Ukraine.

We have to take steps to give Ireland the energy independence it needs.

I'm actually in agreement with Michael on that.

But I suppose the disagreement is how do we get there?

And I don't believe that recommitting us to expensive imported coal in the context of this particular proposal is the way to go forward.

In respect of Barry Rowe, the reason why Barry Rowe Oilfields