Romy

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If they were skeptical just reading La Fermiere's website, Romeo and Enoch were much more skeptical having just spoken to a person at the company. But also, like, we're two 11th graders and a podcast producer who majored in literature. Yes. We don't actually know what we're talking about.
Well, it taught me to think that we needed to talk to an expert here. And after a break, that's exactly what we're going to do. Hey, PJ. Yes. Welcome back to the show. Thank you. Chapter seven, a surprising answer. So May of that year, nearing the end of 11th grade for Romy and Anouk, I went back to the leasee for a second time.
And you know that feeling when the end of the school year is around the corner, you can just kind of feel it. Everything's a little looser. Memorial Day is around the corner. Romy's actually busy the day that I show up. She had an exam that not even search engine could get her out of. But I do meet up with Anouk.
Basically, I have this week of school, next week of school, and then two days. And after that, it's just a full week of studying, then a French final, and then another week of studying, then another French exam, and then I'm done.
That sounds like a lot of studying and a lot of exams. The reason Anouk and I were meeting up in the middle of exam season was, of course, we still had some more yogurt homework to do. We knew La Fermiere was saying that terracotta was a sustainable selling point for their brand, but now we wanted to talk to a scientist who could help us understand whether or not that was actually true.
And so after doing some research, we landed on who we thought might be the right expert.
Okay, great. And how should we refer to you? Do you prefer maybe Dr. Miller?
Shelly, all right. Perfect.
Shelly's work is fascinating. She does something called life cycle analysis, which means that she studies the environmental impact of products from the moment the materials are extracted from the ground to when they are manufactured, to when they're transported, to when eventually they're disposed or recycled.
And so Anouk explains the class that she's taking and the question that came out of it to Shelly.
So, um, Connaissance du Monde is this course we have at our school that is part of this, um, international baccalaureat, which is this international exam that we take in France.
And since we're all French, yogurt and this French brand of yogurt called La Fermière is an important part of our daily life, especially we go to the cafeteria and there's this yogurt and we're all wondering, like, why is it in clay pots instead of plastic pots like all the others?
And so we started asking some other questions, especially related to sustainability and just maybe trying to find why that was.
The first thing that she says is that to answer a question like this, you need to know what your priorities are. Because she says that there's really no human activity that is good for the environment. Podcasting. Besides podcasting, she said. We only generate hot air. That's warming the climate, Peter. That's not good. What this means is that this is a conversation about trade-offs.
Because different things are bad for the environment in different ways. And so we asked her to kind of compare our two materials here, terracotta and plastic. She started with plastic, and right off the bat, she's like, Plastic is terrible for the environment.
And then there's plastics afterlife, like it clogs landfills, turtles choke on it, microplastics, et cetera, et cetera.
And this is where Shelley started to really surprise me. I think us, actually. Like, yes, plastic sucks. Yes. But remember, everything's a trade-off here. And so, like, how does plastic compare to everything else out there?
Yeah, so for example, how do you go about weighing plastic against another material? How does that work from a professional standpoint?
Shelley says, for instance, you can use a pretty small amount of plastic to perform the same function as much heavier materials like metal or glass or terracotta.
Yeah, it's super interesting because that's exactly where we started to see kind of the fault in the image of La Fermière, where we started thinking, okay, it's so much heavier that during transportation, it probably emits a lot more CO2. And so we're really wondering, where does this idea that plastic is bad or is worse maybe than glass or terracotta, where do you think that comes from?
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