Ron Flatter

If he's on a claimer, then, well, God bless you if you end up in the winner's circle photo.

But it just varies from owner to owner.

But in this particular case, I would think

Kenny's going to find one that he part-owns.

He and his wife own horses.

They had Torpedo Anna.

They were co-owners of Torpedo Anna.

So maybe you wind up in something like that because he wants to get this name brought onto a horse.

Mm-hmm.

Yes, he has.

He did it with Mystic Dan.

Yeah, won the Derby.

Yeah, I mean, he's won each of them.

So, yeah, he's, I mean, one of his most famous was when he had Sarava spoil war emblems, triple crown, I don't know, however many years ago, decades ago, at 70-1 at Belmont.

So, yeah, no, he's been around the block a few times.

Well, he wants to.

He also, you know, look, he's been angling to get on five good minutes on PTI for a long time, so anything that he can do to curry that favor, he's going to do.

Yeah, I would think.

You get in touch with Kenny, and unless it is like one of these horses that is with Godolphin or Coolmore or Starlight or some of these big stable names, Windstar, all the ones you hear about if you're around the track a lot, and maybe they won't share, or maybe you get into one of these partnerships that

they do nothing but look for people to come in as a minority shareholder.