Ron Flatter

And then you, then you get your name in the, you get your name in the program, you know, like we, like we have, you had the other day with Greg Garcia, you know, to be stable, right?

Well, that horse is on the vets list now.

It didn't even finish his first race.

Right.

Yeah.

Not only that, they might try to recruit you to get more money.

Right?

So there's that.

What was the lesson you were told, though, about investing in racehorses?

I was going to say, Nigel, yeah, two out of three.

Well, right now, there's no real jump-off-the-page favorite this year like we had with American Pharoah and we had with Justify in the last, what, 11 years.

The bookmaker's favorite right now is a horse named Renegade, and he won the Arkansas Derby by four lengths, and he's going for like 3-1 in Las Vegas right now, and he'll probably be around that on the morning line here.

The day of the race.

Now, here's here's one problem he has trained by Todd Pletcher, who's won a couple.

Yeah.

And Mike Rapoli, who's been trying to win the Derby.

But the last few years, they've had horrible luck trying to get horses healthy and into the Derby because they've been that scratched.

with a couple of their horses, most notably a couple of years ago with Forte, who was going to be the favorite on race day and hours before the race, they found a foot problem and out he goes.

So if he can finally keep one fit and get into the race, then he's going to be the favorite.

You've got,