Ronan Farrow

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90 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 10 Apr

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I think I have two.
The first of which is it's worth noting that while reasonable minds could perhaps differ on the question you just posed, the answer provided by Sam Altman and the founders of OpenAI was very clear, which is actually part of the way the entire enterprise was structured when it was founded as a nonprofit was they talked a lot about avoiding an AGI dictatorship.
they really believed that actually the person who gets there first and has the most power over this technology is pivotal.
The individual integrity is formative to the way the technology goes and the way it's controlled and the way it's used.
The other thought that I have is, in my mind, you raise a valid point, and more significant than any of this is the structures around these individuals.
We have a technology emerging that could really affect us all in all of the existential ways you just mentioned.
And we don't have the regulatory guardrails to keep an eye on these folks.
We are completely ceding the power to these individual companies and their whims, the mud fight between them, the quality control that each of them has or lacks.
I think that, to me, is the big question.
And the integrity of an individual figures in that, and it's important, but it reveals the weaknesses in the system.
If you have someone who potentially lies all the time, could, in the eyes of many critics, be a danger, the important thing is to have the structures that account for that.
Absolutely.
I think the landscape has changed substantially over the period of time we were reporting this story.
The fact that gradually more and more people were talking openly about this critique is very telling.
We report in the piece that there are periodic spasms of senior executives at OpenAI talking about succession again.
Of course, naturally, the company denies this.
But also very interesting that in recent forms of that discussion, there has been talk about Fiji Simo being sort of the first potential successor candidate who could slot into any ideas of that type that circulate.
Between our asking about that and the piece coming out, obviously Simo has now gone on leave for medical reasons.
There's a lot of reshuffling.
We see it in the Sarah Fryer case.
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