Ronan Farrow

That may eventually be beyond our control.

That you could wind up with a situation where a dictator has a disproportionate ownership of the most powerful technology on earth.

And that that could pose a real national security threat.

And that is where the money is.

And we should say it's become standard in Silicon Valley to fundraise from the Middle East.

Hollywood, everywhere.

But I will say even against that backdrop, there was a lot more grumbling about Altman's sweeping vision of really getting such a massive amount of money and in exchange promising such a massive amount of infrastructure in UAE particularly.

I don't think it's just a caricature or hyperbole to say Sam Altman very often wants what you want in this moment.

And that is the crux of the matter.

Sam Altman, more often than not, it seems, across all of this documentation and sourcing, reads what the person on the other side of the table needs and wants, and he tells them those are the things he wants.

Give me an example.

Well, the entire founding story of the company.

That at a time when safety fears had run wild and were kind of the animating engine of discourse, he was the safety guy.

And he told everyone that was his deepest belief.

Now, he says, and not totally unfairly, evolution over time is a real thing, and I've had to adapt to changing circumstances, but even allowing for that in both that big picture where he's gone from being the safety guy to being the – he would dispute this, but I would say fairly accurate to say no regulation guy –

And also in the micro picture, in all of these small interactions.

You know, we tell the story of an interaction where he summons Dario Amadei, this now competitor from Anthropic, when prior to the founding of Anthropic, Amadei was a senior person at OpenAI.

into a room along with Amadei's sister, who was also at the company, and accused them both of being overly political and working against him.

And then they called in another executive who Altman had said was the source of this rumor.

And that executive said, I never said that.