Rory Stewart

Basically, what Palantir said...

is the first response for self-sabotage, you come in and say, we're going to clean up your data, we're going to make it talk to each other, and we're going to give you better information, is we don't have any money.

We can't do it.

So Palantir said, well, why don't we do it for free?

We'll provide the product to you.

And if you like it, you can pay for it after you've seen what we've done.

Anyway, fast forward, British government's now using it a lot, but not just the British government.

I mean, the US government, it's across absolutely everything.

Why is it controversial?

One anxiety is around data.

So obviously they're getting all this data information.

Do they have access to it?

Palantir says, no, that is absolutely not true.

They don't have access to data any more than Microsoft does to the stuff you're putting into Excel.

They are the software plumbing prison.

Do you believe that?

Yeah, that seems reasonably plausible.

I don't think what they're essentially doing is they've got a secret vault where they're keeping all our data somewhere in the United States.

I don't think that's what they're... I think the bigger issue...

is around dependency.