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Rory Stewart

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The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

I don't think...

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

Not to my knowledge, no.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

Because there was just lots of companies tried.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

We'll talk about the technology.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

So imagine these machines.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

They're so big they have to be moved in several Boeing 747 jumbo jets.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

And what they are doing is etching designs of chips that are, if you look at your fingernail, see how much it grew in the course of a second?

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

That's how fine these huge machines are etching chips.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

It involves these incredible processes like firing little drops of tin, 50,000 of them per second, that get zapped three times in order to generate the ultraviolet light that is creating these etchings.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

So it's just extraordinarily difficult technologically.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

Many companies tried, they all failed apart from this one company.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

Similarly with TSMC, producing these computers.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

The Taiwanese company produces 90% of the Frontier chips.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

Again, it's just very hard.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

Many companies have failed.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

I mean, they have far more bargaining power than they know.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

And with the export controls, ASML and the Netherlands, they got really trounced by them.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

And they got browbeaten by the United States, to be honest.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

But they could.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

And it's not just them.