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Rory Stewart

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The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

So the biggest risk is from rogue states like North Korea, where they've got so little power that making crazy reckless threats can actually be quite powerful.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

But look, there's going to have to be some huge bargaining over what are in those principles and what have exceptions for national security.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

But just briefly, I think, yeah, on the software side, having this written document and then saying any frontier model has to be able to demonstrate that AI will behave in line with the specification, including in very unusual scenarios.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

And that means you have to show that it hasn't been sabotaged, whether internally or via foreign interference, and the AI hasn't formed goals of itself.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

So you know that it's going to generalize well.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

Well, he was in the past.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

Is he not anymore?

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

Not anymore.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

But the thing that's weird, so I mean, yeah, I've written about long-termism, the importance of taking future generations seriously, looking very far ahead.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

The thing that's just strange about the world now is that all these things I'm talking about, I'm thinking the next five years, as in very significant chance that we start on this takeoff of AIs building better AIs and this huge leap forward in technological ability in the next year or two even.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

It's probably not, but maybe even then.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

Absolutely not too late because the world still hasn't kind of woken up.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

There is already a differential in terms of hard power from the US and other countries, but other countries do have some.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

The Netherlands has ASML, which produces 100% the entire world production of, they're called extreme ultraviolet lithography machines.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

And I would thoroughly recommend everyone to go and look into this.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

There's a great Veritasium video on YouTube.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

It's very fun.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

It's the most sophisticated technology in the world, essentially.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

It's one company, ASML, it's called.

The Rest Is Politics: Leading
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

Was the government involved?