Rory Stewart

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24,987 appearances 93 recordings 4 series first heard Nov 2025 last heard 3d ago

Rory Stewart’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Recordings per month over the last 12 months — 93 in all, peaking in Jun 2026 with 16.

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The Rest Is Politics · 561. How Trump’s Chaos Keeps Splintering the World Order · 11 Aug 2026 podcast

So although it's Shabaz Sharif who signed it, as we often say in the podcast, it's really the chief of the army voice-verified

staff who has the great whip hand in Pakistan. voice-verified

He's the guy that goes for, you know, intimate lunches with Trump in the Oval Office. voice-verified

The other thing I think is that this is unlike voice-verified

what would have happened if this had happened twenty years ago? voice-verified

The Saudi economy and the Turkish economies are very, very considerable things. voice-verified

Turkey is now one of the real military powers of the world. voice-verified

It's got extraordinary industrial capacity, its drones programs are impressive. voice-verified

It was very much associated with this Azerbaijani victory in Nagorno-Karabakh, and of course the victory in Syria. voice-verified

Where it was the Turks that backed the new Syrian president as he ruled down against Bashar al-Assad. voice-verified

Another wrinkle. voice-verified

Turkey is of course a NATO member. voice-verified

So one question in the back of everyone's head is is there something that could have been done to prevent this happening? voice-verified

This is not ideal. voice-verified

There are some people I notice in Washington beginning to try to spin it and say, this is exactly what we always wanted, which is people looking after their own affairs and burden sharing. voice-verified

This is not voice-verified

Burden sharing, because what happens when you set up something like this is that you lose all the US command and control. voice-verified

Previously, all these uh countries would have had a very strong relationship with the head of US Central Command, people like General Petraeus, these great sort of big, almost I don't know, uh Roman potentates who would be sitting down with heads of state and would be running a very, very complex coordination. voice-verified

coordinated thing with huge amounts of American assets on the ground working with these countries. voice-verified

This is setting up something which has no US imprint coordination or strategy at all. voice-verified

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