Rory Stewart

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24,987 appearances 93 recordings 4 series first heard Nov 2025 last heard 4d ago

Rory Stewart’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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The Rest Is Politics · 561. How Trump’s Chaos Keeps Splintering the World Order · 11 Aug 2026 podcast

Russia feels more dangerous than it was before. voice-verified

China paradoxically feels more dangerous than it was before because the world's been so distracted by this other chaos that actually China can just sit back while America consumes its patriot missile programs, destroys its allies. voice-verified

So paradoxically by voice-verified

By hitting hard and doing these things, they've actually made their adversaries more desperate, more violent, and hitting them harder than if they'd left them alone in the first place. voice-verified

And it connects to the story that we were covering two weeks ago, which was this story that the US was suddenly going to allow Saudi Arabia to enrich uranium, which is part of the precursor to its own nuclear weapons program, potentially, although they framed it as civilian. voice-verified

And again you heard voices from Washington saying, This looks like uh America's got reckless and is giving Saudi a nuclear weapon, but the reason we have to do it is that if we don't voice-verified

Other people will. voice-verified

And the implication was that China now is in a position to provide a civilian nuclear programme, or maybe as you say, Pakistan. voice-verified

And and this again is balance of power. voice-verified

I mean, I was thinking about the fact that there are you and Tony Blair sitting around a table talking about this stuff. voice-verified

One of the big changes is the relationship between countries like Britain and countries like Turkey and Saudi Arabia since nineteen eighty nine. voice-verified

So since nineteen eighty nine, the British economy has broadly grown three or four times larger. voice-verified

The economies of Saudi Arabia and Turkey are fifteen times larger than they were in nineteen eighty-nine. voice-verified

One of the reasons why the US is now having to make concessions that it never would have considered doing when when you were in office is that Saudi is so much wealthier, has so many more options. voice-verified

And China, of course, has much more capacity to build civilian nuclear programs. voice-verified

So the ability of of everybody to shop around and not be dependent on the US is much greater, which is why it's even more reckless and mad. voice-verified

that the US, rather than leaning into these relationships, treasuring them, bringing people ever closer to themselves, decided to weaponize them at a time when there are alternatives out there. voice-verified

Well that's exactly right. voice-verified

So if we were completely right. voice-verified

And I'm I'm you're you're right, we should have got there earlier. voice-verified

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