Rory Stewart

And second objective is to win the next election.

Okay.

I think if you take those two objectives, Keir Starmer is not the answer to governing Britain brilliantly with conviction over the next three years, and he's not the answer to winning the next election.

And once you've seen that big strategic picture, the conclusion's obvious.

Well, let's look at the Tories a little bit more sympathetically.

I mean, my guess is, hanging on to Theresa May,

probably wouldn't have worked.

They brought in Boris Johnson.

I mean, I happen to think, you know, obviously a terrible human being, terrible prime minister.

Won an election against all the odds.

You know, when I was running against Boris, the basic story was winning that 2019 election would be very, very difficult.

He managed it.

Again, they couldn't leave Boris in.

It was the right move to get rid of him.

Partygate, scandals, the incompetence around him.

Check him out.

Nor could they leave those trusses for goodness sake.

So they had to move.

Now, it didn't work for them because unfortunately, Rishi Sunak got many, many talents, but he wasn't.

a great communicating, strategic, big thinking prime minister.