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Rory Sutherland

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2934 total appearances

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The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

Probably 50% of the time I would advise to a client take 10 to 20% of your marketing budget and spend it on upgrading the call center.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

Pay the people too much.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

Get the best practitioners.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

I think it's perfectly legitimate in some organizations there should be the very best call center people should be on six figures.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

Because if you're good and nice, that's how much difference it makes.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

In other words, it more or less drowns out all your other stuff, all the other noise.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

If every time you have a personal experience, you have a good experience, then broadly speaking in the human brain, that's a good organization which I can trust.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

And when you think about it, I suddenly realized why this probably is.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

We don't really have much evolved experience in evaluating postal efficiency, do we?

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

We have...

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

God of a million, half a million years of evolved experience in deciding who to like and trust.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

Because for most of our evolutionary, you know, existence, that was one of the five most important questions to get right.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

You know, do I trust this person?

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

You know, will they attack me?

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

Are they an ally?

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

Are they a foe?

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

If I pay them money, will they deliver?

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

And so consequently, I think what we do in our brains is we use our human judgment to

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

as a proxy.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

Now, a story to back up that, you probably remember this, okay?