Ross Douthat

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293 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Dec 2025 last heard 2 Dec

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The Ezra Klein Show · Interesting Times: She Exposed Epstein and Shares MAGA’s Anger · 2 Dec 2025 podcast

What we can say for certain about Epstein and the unresolved mysteries. matched

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So if you're trying to take a kind of minimalist view of the story, it's a story about a rich man with connections who gets away with terrible crimes because he has these connections for a long period of time. matched

And it's a story, you know, that makes... matched

All the people who knew him look bad for the same reason that everyone who knew about Harvey Weinstein looks bad. matched

But it's not a story at the level of sort of political mythology that Epstein, the story has reached now. matched

So I want now to talk about basically the open questions whose openness explains why matched

Epstein is a bigger story and a more enduring story than Harvey Weinstein, right? matched

Obviously, one of the core questions in all of this is, matched

were these girls expected to have sex with people other than Jeffrey Epstein? matched

And I think a lot of people following the story just sort of take for granted that there must have been a bunch of other celebrities who were getting sexual favors. matched

And the debunking response, as I understand it, is that out of the young women who made accusations, only one, who you mentioned earlier, Virginia Giuffre, made serial allegations that she was pressured into having sex with matched

famous figures. matched

And out of the allegations, there was only one settlement. matched

There was no trial or anything, but there was, of course, the settlement with Prince Andrew, where there was a photograph of him together with Maxwell and Giuffre. matched

In the other cases, the men mentioned successfully fought back. matched

Giuffre is dead now. matched

She was very troubled, clearly. matched

And there are reasons to think that she might have been sort of out to get money or get revenge and these kind of things and reasons to be skeptical of some of her allegations. matched

That is how I understand it. matched

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