Ross Douthat

How does it look different from the U.S.

?

So part of what's fascinating to me about the European deal is that, one,

Europe needs people more than the U.S.

does.

Europe is older, lower birth rates, right?

There's more of a need for immigrants in Europe than in the U.S.

Europe has had a very difficult experience assimilating immigrants from the Middle East and North Africa, and you have much starker conflicts in Europe between native populations and Muslim immigrants.

And so now it's like Europe is saying, well,

We're going to take a lot more immigrants from India.

And so you're creating, it seems like a kind of fascinating, almost triangle there, right, between native populations, Muslim immigrants, you know, Middle East, North Africa, and then potentially Indian immigrants as well.

That just seems like a very potentially volatile mix.

Yeah.

As potential destinations that Indians want to go to.

But even if the Indian government...

feels like it has a really strong interest in encouraging immigration to Europe.

This has been offered to me as one of the solutions to the unemployment problems you mentioned that like maybe, you know, the Modi government or Indian governments might say, well, you know, we have a lot of unemployed young men and it wouldn't be the worst thing if they went and worked in Europe.

What does India want from its diaspora?

Get money.

Does India want its diaspora to make Europe or the United States or any other democratic country more sympathetic to India?