Ross Douthat

I'm not offering this as criticism.

I'm offering it in terms of an understanding of the future.

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It's 2060.

Everything has gone as well for India as could be imagined in that time.

How would you describe the Indian place in the world in that future?

That's a good place to end.

Amitabh Acharya, thank you so much for joining us.

Thank you very much for having me.

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We are living in interesting times, a turning point in history.

Are we entering a dark authoritarian era?

Or are we on the brink of a technological golden age or the apocalypse?

No one really knows, but I'm trying to find out.

From New York Times Opinion, I'm Ross Douthat.

And on my show, Interesting Times, I'm exploring this strange new world order with the thinkers and leaders giving it shape.

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