Ross Douthat

But just to actually ask a question, not rather than just make a comment about other podcast episodes.

I'm sure it was a good one.

They're all good episodes.

I love them all equally.

On that, you mentioned crisis pregnancy centers and so on.

Is there a world where...

public support for women, pregnant women, families with children and so on.

Is there a world where that becomes a successful form of pro-life outreach?

Yes.

Where you say, go ahead.

But can politics and policy, I'm saying, play a role in elevating that?

Yes, I think so.

Right now, you would not expect a Republican candidate for president to say, the central plank of my platform is going to be more government funding and support for people working to help women in crisis pregnancies and people with young kids who need help.

Do you think if it were, it would be a stronger argument for the wavering, the uncertain, the person caught between the pro-choice and pro-life side?

Right, like these are long-term wealth-building devices.

Yes.

I mean, I remember when I... On the internet, yes.

On the internet.

Less so in Congress, but yes.

Yes.