Ross Douthat

So I just wanted to end by asking you, if you're having a personal discussion about why women should be pro-life,

What kinds of things do you say?

I love that.

I wasn't going to say it, but since you said it.

I love it.

And if your interlocutor says, that's inspiring and I believe in that, but I or a woman I know are in a position where

motherhood feels like it's being imposed under impossible circumstances, which is, again, I think where a certain kind of pro-choice sentiment starts, where it just seems impossible.

Last thing, what do you say in that circumstance?

And what do you get if you do it?

Lila Rose, thank you for joining me.

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