Rowan Jacobsen

You know, like so there's this like saying attributed to Max Planck, who's this like quantum physicist, science advances one funeral at a time.

I think we got to let the old guy die off a little bit.

But I guarantee there's a young generation coming in who's going to.

be really interested in light and how they can use it.

Yeah.

And it's fun.

I mean, playing with light, it's super fun.

So this is a way you can make your world a little bit richer is starting to think about this stuff.

Well, I think – and they won't object to the red.

Some of them are using red light therapy because there's no risk of skin cancer from red.

It's only the UV and maybe a little bit of the blue that contributes to skin cancer.

So it's the UV where they get a little wigged out.

And that data is – it's coming from all different other fields like immunology, cardiology.

So – and like scientists are sort of increasingly like hesitant to trespass on –

their other domains.

Right.

Like they're not going to walk across campus to the other building anymore.

But that needs to change.

And the other part of it is that science, it's sort of very self-reinforcing.

It's all grant-based, essentially.