Russell Brunson

I see ones and fours and fives and twos.

It's interesting too.

Like when we first built ClickFunnels one of the reasons why we built it is because again, I was very entrepreneurial.

I wanted to create stuff, but I had no technical skills.

And I was so handcuffed as an entrepreneur.

It's like, ah, so I would, I would hire developers to do stuff.

And so they would create something and they show me the page.

I'm like, yeah, but can you move the image over this far?

And can you change the thing?

And like, and I go back and forth and back and forth for days to trying to get like, just adjust things.

It is so hard.

And I remember when we first built ClickFunnels.

So Todd Dickerson is my business partner.

You guys have a chance to meet him here soon.

And one of our other business partners named Dylan Jones.

And they built it together.

And I remember they sent it to me initially.

And they're like, hey, Russell, build a funnel with this.

I'm like, well, how does it work?

I can't tell you how it works because we want to see if you can just figure it out.