Russell Brunson

And so I was logging in there.

Absolutely.

The thing I remember, I remember I was able to put images and I could take the font.

I can make it bigger or small.

I can move things.

And I was like, this is so cool, but I couldn't make things look good.

And I was very confused until, um, uh, Dylan, who's one who created the, the editor, right?

He's the one who created the first editor that had all the, the row section columns.

I remember one day he was sitting down with me.

He, he's from Canada and flown to our office.

We're working on stuff.

And I was like, I can't make these pages look good.

And he sat down and he mapped out for me what you guys just saw.

Like, I remember he sat down, he's like, okay,

this is a section, and he's like, and he showed, and he's like, pull up any web page, and so I started pulling up these random web pages, he's like, if you look at this, he's like, this is a section here, and then this is, it's like, these are sections, and inside sections are rows and columns, he's like, there's a row, and so he started showing me on all these sites I'd seen before, and then inside there, there's elements, he's like, that's all website design is, when you understand those things, then you can look at anything, you guys will start doing this, you'll start looking at any of my sites, or anybody, Catherine's sites, or anyone's sites, and you'll start seeing, like, the pattern, you're like, oh,

And then I know I could do this.

And so the very, I remember the very first thing I did is the exact same exercise we're having you do.

And I actually did it, if you guys know Lewis Howes, he's one of my friends.

And Lewis had just paid this company, I think it was Digital Telephony or something, that was the name of the company.

And they were like this high-end website firm.