Ryan Adams

Something like Mark will dismiss all of the things that even people like Dario are saying is kind of a particular lens on the world.

Maybe like a doomer socialist type of take that you're taking your worldview and you're applying that to AI and you're saying, you know, here it is.

You're being politically opportunistic.

about things.

I'm not saying you in particular, of course, Jasmine, I know you are reporting about these things, but this is the pushback on the unemployment numbers that it's just like, that's not actually how it's going to play out.

And even if Dario believes that's how it's going to play out, we've had technical revolutions throughout history and it's led to more productivity.

It's led to more positive sum games for more people.

And why wouldn't it play out this way?

So what do you think is actually going to happen here?

First, why don't you give the steel man for Dario's case?

And then I would be interested in your own opinion because I know you've spent a lot of time here and given it considerable thought.

But then even there, on Dario's case, like it wouldn't be the case.

Let's say AI automates all of kind of the labor types of tasks in the economy.

Isn't it the case that humans still have this insatiable demand for kind of status types of games?

So you think about something like yoga or, you know, a personal trainer or something like this.

This is just about fulfillment, right?

I suppose, in life.

Or maybe there's some idea of a status game that's being played.

You know, it's like I can get stronger, I can get more fit, something like this.

And so maybe all the software developers become personal trainers and, you know, they spend their time on more fulfilling tasks.