Ryan Bodenheimer

Do you think if he winds it down and gets it kind of closed, buttoned up, it would help in this couple of months?

Yeah.

And I think elongated wars are terrible anyways, even just despite political reasons, like just having long-term wars, I don't think it's good for society.

Yeah.

I mean, like I was saying earlier, it's kind of like, I feel like America has a little bit of a war hangover from all the Iraq and Afghanistan stuff, like all the different mental health crises that happened to veterans coming back from that.

Really?

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I saw my best friend die in a plane crash six months into flight school.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm the kid who's like, you know, Top Gun posters on the wall.

This is just like sexy, aviation's amazing.

And that's the attitude I had right until I saw, you know, my friend crash.

And I realized like, oh, this is not just the Top Gun.

I mean, the Top Gun is a part of it, but this is real.

And military and warfare can be very deadly and unforgiving.

And so yeah, seeing him crash right next to me, he ejected out the ejection seat, didn't have enough time to work and so it hit the ground.

And so him and the instructor pilot didn't survive.

Yeah, so I went through the dark night of the soul.

I mean, probably like your family member where I was like, do I quit?

What do I do here?