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Ryan Burge

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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

They've grown consistently now for 30 years, and I think they're going to continue to go up.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

But I think the Orthodox Church is probably going to do relatively well.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

But by relatively well, I mean they might add 25% membership in the next 30 years.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

We're never going to see a mega denomination like the Southern Baptist Convention or the United Methodist Church ever again.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

I see the role of the Internet actually being somewhat destructive to American religion in that it shows you all the bad things in a very compelling way.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

You know, like, why do they not believe this or why are they inconsistent on this thing?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

Or did you know the church's history on this is bad?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

You know, what's really interesting is, so we had COVID.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

We're like, we're going to move church online.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

And over 90% of church were streaming online right after COVID.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

And what we realized is that online church does not do any of the positive things that we thought in-person church.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

And I think we did, oh, we're going to work from home.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

And guess what?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

Now everyone's back to working in the office three or four days a week.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

Like nothing that we've seen created online seems like it has any legs to it.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

Even among young people who attend online and in-person churches,

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

two thirds of them prefer attending in person and 15% prefer online and the other 15% don't care either way.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

Like, so even young people are not drawn to digital anything.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

Listen, religion's endured for all of Western civilization because it works for lots and lots of people.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

And no matter how much we try to remake it with technology and AI and the internet, showing up on an average Sunday with a bunch of people and singing some songs and saying some creeds and hearing a sermon is transformative and will be for all of human history as far as I can tell.