Ryan Callaghan

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The MeatEater Podcast · Ep. 892: Ryan Callaghan on Public Lands and Conservation · 22 Jun 2026 podcast

And why are we getting so much negative feedback on this thing that was overwhelmingly positive?

And you have the feeling in the back of your mind of like, oh, you were misinformed.

Refuges.

a good example it's having negative consequences right now unfortunately but um many of the executive orders are big statements that do at the end say like unless there's currently a travel management plan in place yeah right yep like i see you know i was putting the idea i was putting like this like if i said let's say i said to my kids i'm like don't even ask me

Yes.

Yeah.

And, and when it comes time to have a new travel management plan, it's going to be, these things are going to be considered.

Right.

But for the time being, if there's a travel management plan in place, that is the law.

Yeah.

Um, and yeah, a lot of, a lot of media is,

because of this need want for hyperbole have really, really put a ding on our public lands because they're saying, Oh, all this stuff's open now.

And if that is not the case.

Um, and I can go into a bunch of work that we're doing right now to try to help, uh, some positive messaging around that.

Oh, the general, it would be like Trump rolls back bedrock travel, uh, management plans.

It opens the, it paves the way for, uh, off-road use would probably be the thing.

First of all, off-road on BLM and Forest Service land is kind of a misnomer because you can go off-road on these designated roads and trails.

not cross-country travel.

Yeah, big thoroughfare or main artery type of thing.

And then that's broken into single-track motorized.

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