Ryan Callaghan

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The MeatEater Podcast · Ep. 892: Ryan Callaghan on Public Lands and Conservation · 22 Jun 2026 podcast

And the further they get away, the more wary they're going to be.

Their survivability is going to be higher.

pack wildlife viewing pack in the park yeah yeah well on the the roadless side of things you know there's like viable sold timber uh projects that um were tied up in a lot of red tape because they were adjacent to okay right um and then the and that causes frustration big time frustration right and it and it like i can see how that leads to like

it's totally flawed through the whole thing out.

Yeah, exactly.

And not only not by the park, but how far away from the park?

Yeah.

And then, um,

The roadless rule as it's written, you can build roads or reopen roads temporarily to go in and do wildfire mitigation.

You can go in and do like habitat work.

Okay.

And oftentimes that stuff gets litigated to death and tied up.

And sometimes it's just not even a conversation that people are willing to have because it will get litigated and tied up.

Um, and so the, the proper implementation, and this is where I think conservation has a real, all of us groups have a real failure is we work like hell to build something like the roadless rule.

And then the implementation part, like we're in it for the sanctuary areas, like by God.

we got some areas carved out here where there's not going to be roads.

It's human powered only.

It's going to exclude folks who aren't willing to do that.

I'm going to have a little honey hole.

And that's our focus.

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