Ryan Callaghan

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The MeatEater Podcast · Ep. 892: Ryan Callaghan on Public Lands and Conservation · 22 Jun 2026 podcast

And then you get in circles where people have really, really gone through the grinder on this and they've looked at case law and it gets overly complicated.

Like you, you start, start getting into these conversations where you've kind of lost the, the on the ground fact a long time ago, where it's like, you're, you're just walking from here to there.

Um, so yeah.

No question in my mind as to if it's legal, it is legal.

I think because kind of like we talked about on your motorized community or non-motorized community, I remind people all the time, like if you're on the private side of that fence, you're a public landowner too.

And you also have way better access to that square that you're trying to get to.

Yeah.

So it behooves all of us to come up with common language assurances that clearly define the private property, the public property, and the access, right?

Yeah.

It used to be, um, if like our, our, um, not suggestion,

different word, are what Montana Fish, Wildlife, and Parks would like you to do is to contact the adjacent landowner for permission to corner cross.

That was, and then if, if somebody were to try to get a warden out there to cite you, the warden would then have to contact the county prosecutor in order to issue that citation.

And then, you know, that,

language, uh, ramped up and to the point where the state was implying like this is illegal.

Um, if you write the governor, you get a response back that says it's illegal and always has been.

Okay.

Um, the secretary, not the secretary of the state, the Lieutenant governor, um, you know, offered her opinion, um,

a couple of our state senators said, there it is, that's the law, it's illegal, which is not how we create laws in the- They offered the opinion that it was forbidden.

Yep.

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