Ryan Graves

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And we started filing paperwork, safety reports, and hoping and expecting that this would get resolved in some way as the proper people, whoever that was, got these reports and they could mitigate it in some way. But that never happened, at least from our perspective. So we essentially treated them as safety issues. We would avoid them. We wouldn't fly close to them.
And then in 2015, we left to go do what's called a pre-deployment workup cycle aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt. So we train like we play. You get the whole air wing there, 30 jets, 40 jets, and we're doing these very complex missions. And there were a lot of objects down there as well. They either followed us down there or they were already there.
A lot of visual sightings.
Or solid spheres, some elongated spheres, kind of more tic-tac shape, if you will. And during that workup cycle, that's when we recorded what's now known as the Gimbal and GoFast video. And they almost had to shut that entire exercise down because there were multiple near misses while we were trying to do this. And this is a big deal.
If they cancel that training mission, that means the people that are deployed essentially have to be there longer. They have to wait longer. So there's a lot of downstream effects. So pretty big deal to even consider canceling a training mission. You know, our training mission like this. So, again, we, you know, we filed it up. We didn't know what else to do with it.
And we went back to our training and left on deployment. In 2017, a New York Times article came out. I was now an instructor pilot in Mississippi and for the Navy still. And on the front page of New York Times, lo and behold, there are the video of the gimbal and the GoFast with the pilot's audio on there that we've heard now. And I'm like, holy shit, you know, this is still going on.
Massive deja vu, as you might imagine. And I saw that as like a cry for help, essentially, that these videos now have been somewhat smuggled out. They're on the front page of New York Times.
My understanding is that work was done partially with Lou Elizondo and Chris Mellon. So there was two videos that were attached, right? So when you record in the jet, it records two screens. Can we show those, Jamie? Show those videos. So it records these two screens, right? And the bottom screen is like a God's eye view with all your radar data. And the right one is your FLIR system.
And when you watch that in the briefing room after, they're stitched together like side by side. And that's what I saw and that's how I built my understanding of this situation.
Yeah, they weren't able to gain a lock in their air-to-air mode. So they actually had to degrade down to an air-to-surface mode, kind of a manual locking mode. And that's that box that you see.
The air-to-air mode should essentially be looking exactly where the radar is dropping them off and should automatically lock on it. But in the method that you're seeing here, the pilot's manually slewing the sensor. This is kind of like a last-ditch effort to get it. And he's, like, restarting it, and that's why the box keeps getting bigger. And it's getting smaller. It's not capturing it.
We don't know. You know, one theory is that it's because it's relatively close to the ground and there's a lot of background, right, to confuse the sensor.
It's somewhere around 10,000 feet or so. So it's really not that close. So it's really not a great explanation. But, yeah, you can see him try it there.
I don't know if anyone has estimated a size, to be honest. From the pilot's perspective, they're not going to be able to make a real-time assessment of the size.
Well, they're about five miles away or so.
Yeah, so you see the range 3.4 right there? That range is coming strictly from the AT FLIR sensor itself. It's not a very reliable indicator of the range. That's what the radar is for. So although it says about 3.5, 4.4 and then ticks down, it's probably a little bit further away than that.
Range.
is is that on there anywhere of how fast this thing is going so you have uh 170 v sub c right below the range uh and that's indicating uh our relative velocity and that's miles per hour or kilometers uh it should be knots so it's probably like 180 190 miles per hour no heat signature Well, there is a heat differential anyway. So right now we're in White Hut.
So objects that are white are Hutter objects in the background.
So that's showing us that it's cooler than the surrounding environment for whatever reason.
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