Ryan Graves
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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I did see one video like that. I wasn't sure how real it was.
Yeah. Yeah, I've, you know, I've heard multiple people, representative officials saying like, hey, government needs to step in and start being more clear because people are just going to take matters into their own hands. That's where people get hurt.
I've heard rumors of downed ones, but I haven't.
Yeah, I think if that's the one you're referring to, there happened to be like a small plane crash.
We need to get Elon Musk to have a special UAP task force within the community.
So there's some laws in this country that are a little bit antiquated when it comes to dealing with situations like this. So my understanding is right now these things are operating mostly in what's called Class G airspace, which is really low. It's away from airports. Not all, of course, right? They're over bases. They're over LaGuardia. Yeah. Yeah.
But here's, I think, where a lot of the trouble is coming in from. I think the government has to make the presumption at this point, based off the feedback from the DOD and others, that if this is not a foreign adversary, then we have to make the assumption that it's a U.S. citizen that's operating these. Because of that, they essentially need a warrant in order to wiretap these. What? Yeah.
Even with the Patriot Act? That's the feedback I'm receiving. That's the legal limitation. Oh, come on.
I don't buy that. Well, whether it's the reality situation or not, that's how they're proceeding. Right. And so to overcome that, you know, there's like 120 page report that needs to be filed all the way up to the deputy attorney general of the United States in order to even intercept these signals that they may or may not even be emitting to be able to determine where they're going.
And so I think that's one part of what's like slowing down this whole investigation. On the other hand, for base commanders. They have limited authorities to protect their base, but when they do, they need to submit basically a request all the way up to the Secretary of Defense. So now you have this super politically charged situation with a lot of risk of objects flying over the U.S.
If they take action and shoot one of these down, even with the Secretary of Defense's permission, they're on the hook if that thing takes out a school bus or otherwise damages someone's property.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. So formerly trained aerospace engineer in college, joined the Navy immediately after with the hopes to go fly fighter jets for the Navy, was successful in doing that. And I flew the F-18 Super Hornet for 11 years and two deployments. primarily operating off of Virginia Beach. And pretty standard career until about 2013 or so when we started to – we came back from our deployment.
We began to upgrade our radar systems. When that happened, we put in essentially a much more powerful radar into our jet. It took about eight months. So you'd have – you might fly with a – Newer radar in the morning, maybe an older radar at night.
And consistently, when we were flying with these newer radars, we were picking up a bunch of objects that were operating in our working area that we weren't seeing with the older radar. They were performing in strange ways. They would be stationary. They would be around 250 to 350 knots, kind of meandering around the area.
not really working together per se but kind of clearly operating in the same vicinity as one another right so we weren't flying in formations necessarily and we'd even see these supersonic as well 1.1 1.2 mach typically heading east and we'd only see them over the water We originally thought they were radar errors, right? Some kind of software glitch.
But eventually we started to correlate these across other sensors, such as our IR FLIR system. Our missile systems would lock onto these. And we would try to fly up to them to see them physically with our eyeballs. And when we do that, we wouldn't see anything. We come within about 500 feet of these objects. All our sensors are pumped into our helmet, augmented reality style.
And it would tell us exactly where to look and boom, we come right past this object and there'd be nothing there. We'd circle back around and then pick it back up on our sensors. It would be slightly displaced, but that was kind of status quo for a few weeks until we had a near miss with one of these objects right at the entrance to our working areas.
The pilot came back, canceled the flight, had a look of shock on his face and described as a dark gray or a black cube inside of a clear sphere. And once that happened, we kind of had to come together as a squadron with the safety officer in our squadron and say, hey, you know, like, OK, what's going on? This has kind of been rumor and conjecture, but, you know, we almost had a near miss.
You almost lost an aircraft. You know, let's gather as much information as we can. As it turned out, there are four other near misses that had occurred in the past month that pilots were too uncomfortable to even report. And that really kind of kicked off the seriousness of this issue for us.
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