Ryan Graves
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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Unknown objects operating over the base. They couldn't tell where they were going. They were unprepared for them. Same period of time, two, three weeks before Christmas. This is year three. And they were expecting them to come again for the third year in a row over Langley. And there was some effort put forward to be able to better understand these when they came back.
And they did come back, but they came back in a much wider swath. Now we have them all over New Jersey, all the way up to Massachusetts. And it's hard to tell exactly with the quality of the reporting right now because it seems to be, you know, the bigger the story gets, the more people are just looking up and seeing anything and pointing it out.
But, you know, there are reports from Texas to Florida to California, Ohio, Minnesota, Pennsylvania. I mean, it's not just New Jersey itself, it seems. And even the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base was shut down for a drone incursion just this last Friday, a couple of days ago. So this isn't just a one-off event. It is in the sense that it's so large and so many people are paying attention to it.
But this has been occurring for at least three years around military bases. And that's nothing to say with the incidents that we were seeing over the eastern seaboard and other training ranges that fighter pilots were seeing as they were doing their operations. So
I'm a little hesitant to link it to the full story that we've been having here, this full conversation, but at least for three years this has been occurring. So, you know, kind of getting back to your question, you know, why can't we do more about it? It's a hard problem, I think, for a number of reasons. It's hard, but it's very solvable, right? I think this can be solved. We can solve it.
But right now, kind of the word on the street is that – These objects appear to be coming from over the ocean. There's senior congressmen, there's Coast Guard personnel, there's law enforcement. They're seeing a large number of these come from somewhere over the ocean.
I don't know if that means necessarily they're popping out of the water physically or if they're coming from some unknown location in the water and then proceeding over the coast. I don't know how that relates to Ohio. That's a pretty long trip if they are coming over the ocean.
And from the videos I've seen and the conversation I've had, they are detecting these objects through kind of normal mechanisms like radar systems, optical camera systems. They are flying very low. In some cases, they seem to be operating as a group.
um in the vicinity of each other flying past each other flying very up close to each other and then proceeding to do whatever they are that they're doing it's an unknown right now if they are emitting energy or not so you know like radio communications or their own maybe active sensor systems it's unknown i've poked on that front and the best i can tell the government doesn't know either that seems so weird that they don't know that
That's a great question. I mean at this point I'm comfortable making a guess of probably over 800 or 1,000. Whoa. And how many of those are sightings of the same object? How many of those are individual objects? How many of those are unique objects? So it's tough to say, but this isn't just a few objects that people are seeing.
And so I can imagine some technologies that will allow traditional UAVs or drones to operate without emitting. So they could have a self-contained navigational system. Maybe they have their own onboard maps and they're using cameras to map where they are.
Exactly. And then, you know, what is their task, right? Is it just to instill panic and fear? Is it because they're sensing something? And if they are sensing something, they would have to be using what's called passive sensors, right? So like a camera system is passive, but if you're shooting a radar out and having it bounce off of something, that's active, right?
And that's easier to detect than a passive system. So I could imagine a fully self-contained autonomous drone system that is doing something potentially with passive sensors that allows it to operate without emissions, which is going to make it harder to track.
able to detect whatever they're looking for at night yeah depends what they're looking for but ultimately there is tech there's electro-optical systems there's infrared camera systems not unlike the jets that are the systems that we had on my jet but we were able to detect these objects with infrared when we were flying off the eastern seaboard there are a number of reports from law enforcement that their infrared systems are not able to pick these objects up and
And not just this year, but also the incidents over Langley last year, the pilots that respond to that incident, I've spoken to them. They weren't able to lock these up with their infrared systems either. So they do seem to be exhibiting some type of signature management.
Yeah, and that goes to some very base physics, right? We create heat whenever we have stored energy and we utilize it. So to be able to... To mitigate that to such a degree that you can't even detect them at all, you know, it's pretty tough. I mean, I can imagine you can reduce your signature.
We do it in fighter jets, right, through kind of just like baffles where we cover the engine essentially to make it harder to see. But to have zero ability to detect or lock onto these objects is not a technology I'm familiar with.
You know, it's tough to say based on what I've seen just in the public from from reports and kind of amateur photographers and witnesses. Some of them do seem to be making pretty sharp turns. I wouldn't call them like physics breaking turns, but they don't seem to be operating like a normal aircraft. Right. So they're down low. They're making what appear to be pretty high G turns.
maybe like three, four, five G turns at relatively low air speeds, which is indicative of them having a pretty significant power supply, right? Anytime you turn like that, you're burning energy essentially.
So for them to be able to make these high G maneuvers and then remain in the area for another five or six or seven hours and still have the battery life or whatever's propelling them to then go over the ocean to a point where they're untrackable is, Again, I'm not really familiar with that type of capability either.
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