Ryan Grim

These are the tropes they use.

And then he'll use the exact same tropes and just sub Jew for Israel, which is the place where all Jews collectively have a connection to Israel.

And is the homeland where more than 50% of Jews on planet Earth live.

So it's not, we'd never say Jews control the media, but Israel controls the media.

And, you know, the Jews didn't pull us into the war with Iran and control the American government, but Israel does.

Yeah, just so curious for your reaction to this because, Effie, you've been getting criticism as well for campaigning with – or maybe did an interview with Hassan, something along those lines.

First of all, just as a fact check for viewers –

Marco Rubio himself said that it was Israel that initiated the attack on Iran and that we went because Israel had done that.

I don't believe Hassan Piker has ever said that Israel controls the American media.

That's just a completely bizarre thing to say.

And relatedly, on the day that this segment was aired, the Israeli Knesset passed a death penalty law that would apply only to Palestinians.

And his suggestion there is that anybody who criticized that must be smuggling in, you know, quote unquote, Jew hatred and couldn't possibly have actual genuine criticism of this law that the Knesset had just put into place, which I don't believe was covered at all on that program.

So Effie, why are people coming after you about Hassan Piker?

Like what's going on in this race?

Since then, there's been this kind of weird, contradictory, bifurcated response.

So David Frum, I think it was David Frum, said he asked an AI agent to tell him about Hassan Piker and his audience.

And that the AI agent told him that Piker has 20,000 to 30,000 concurrent viewers.

You know, he streams for eight to 12 hours a day.

And then David Frum looked up the number of viewers that MSNBC has in primetime or something and I think was very confused about the way that viewership stats are analyzed and understood.

And so was his agent.