Ryan Hanley

So like, if you're a super AI nerd, or maybe even a white collar, more knowledge worker base, maybe it makes sense to get your hands into Claude code and figure out how you can move some data around.

But if you're out there, like I said, twisting pipes or pressure washing stuff or whatever you're doing, there's just that return on time is not worth digging in and trying to build it yourself.

Yeah.

I love that.

I love that.

I think...

I think it's very smart advice, guys, for those of you listening at home, that I think we're all going to be pushed and it's going to be kind of shiny object syndrome for a while with AI, certainly.

It may even be in, like, the first inning of shiny object syndrome.

But...

I think more than ever, and correct me if I'm wrong here, we need to be very protective of our mental energy, attention, focus, because AI in particular seems to, I mean, you can go down some rabbit holes and not come up for days.

And that's a lot of lost time if you're not kind of protecting your work hours and protecting your focus.

Yeah.

So, okay.

You wrote the book nine steps to a billion.

Um, my first question was, is a billion, like, should we be shooting for a billion is like, what's like, I guess it may take this question, however you were, uh, however you want.

When I sit down and I'm looking to grow, let's say I have a business, but I want to grow.

I'm ambitious.

Maybe I'm early 30s and I want to, you know, I know I got 30, 40 years of good business in front of me and I want to grow something substantial, build a legacy.

How do I pick the target?

Like,