Ryan Holiday

The kids wanted to go to a concert.

So we said, oh, let's do it.

And it was incredible to watch them play.

play, pouring rain.

It wasn't quite Woodstock 98 or whatever that was, but it was nuts.

Bumped into Cody Sanchez's husband there.

She had just been on the podcast a few days earlier.

But anyways, as the rain was pouring down, we're watching the Artemis launch on the New York Times app on our phone and watching the rain come in.

And then they went on and they played.

He shouted me out.

Randy did at the beginning of the set, which was

You know, unreal.

I wish I had video of that, but I was, you know, actually just trying to enjoy the concert.

But that made me think it was such a lovely show.

He has been on the podcast twice and he told two really good stories that I think are worth sharing.

The first is him talking about what it was like to be thrown in a Czech prison.

for on trumped up charges that he was eventually vindicated on, but very scary charges.

Let me play that, because obviously the stoic theme of being thrown in jail and not knowing if your freedom is going to be taken away is a timeless one.

And then it's actually something explicitly he turned to stoicism while he was dealing with.

So how does the philosophy hold up then?