Ryan Rishaug

The other conversation is Mike Babcock, the coach.

Is he the right coach for this group right now?

And I think those are both separate but equally important conversations.

So you tell me which one you want to have first.

Yeah.

So, I mean, there's no questioning his credentials.

You know, he's shown that you put amazing teams in front of him and he can motivate those guys and get them over the finish line.

I think we would agree that Detroit team that he won a cup with was pretty special with some special players on it.

Those Olympic teams were incredible.

And on the world stage, he, you know, he did a hell of a good job.

You can't take that away from him.

Like he has earned those credentials and you can't take that away from him.

I will also point out that his last seven years that he was starting

on an NHL bench or supposed to start on an NHL bench.

He didn't win a single playoff series and got fired twice.

And one of the times he got fired before he even set foot on the bench for a game.

So his recent coaching history is pretty mad.

You know, there's some of the defensive metrics on a Maple Leafs team that was kind of supposed to be in around their window.

Their results were underwhelming.

Now, it's not entirely Mike's fault.