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Ryan Schinman

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The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

Two, knowing if there's conflict. So if it's a beverage brand, Do they already have a beverage complex so you don't look like an idiot when you call and say, I'd like to have you for X, Y, and Z beverage? Knowing the price points, knowing the attributes, knowing the analytics behind it, but more importantly, it's having that leverage that I was talking about of spending and the buying power.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

Two, knowing if there's conflict. So if it's a beverage brand, Do they already have a beverage complex so you don't look like an idiot when you call and say, I'd like to have you for X, Y, and Z beverage? Knowing the price points, knowing the attributes, knowing the analytics behind it, but more importantly, it's having that leverage that I was talking about of spending and the buying power.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

So if someone's going to be a half a million dollars to do something, I better be getting it for 375 or 400 grand. If someone only wants to do two posts, I better be getting four or five. Someone wants to fly private, I sure as hell hope they're going to fly commercial for me. And that doesn't mean they're best friends with me.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

So if someone's going to be a half a million dollars to do something, I better be getting it for 375 or 400 grand. If someone only wants to do two posts, I better be getting four or five. Someone wants to fly private, I sure as hell hope they're going to fly commercial for me. And that doesn't mean they're best friends with me.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

That doesn't mean they love me or we're really brilliant negotiators at Mayflower Entertainment. It's pure and simple. It's called leverage. And that's it. So we're CAA's biggest commercial buyer, WME's biggest commercial buyer, UTA, all the record labels, all the publishers' biggest buyers.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

That doesn't mean they love me or we're really brilliant negotiators at Mayflower Entertainment. It's pure and simple. It's called leverage. And that's it. So we're CAA's biggest commercial buyer, WME's biggest commercial buyer, UTA, all the record labels, all the publishers' biggest buyers.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

So not only do we have that inside knowledge of inside baseball, of really what's going on, but we have the leverage and we also know what they've gotten for other endorsement deals. So I think anybody, like I said, can get to somebody. It's another thing to know their worth, know what they'll do or not do, and negotiate a great deal on behalf of the brand.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

So not only do we have that inside knowledge of inside baseball, of really what's going on, but we have the leverage and we also know what they've gotten for other endorsement deals. So I think anybody, like I said, can get to somebody. It's another thing to know their worth, know what they'll do or not do, and negotiate a great deal on behalf of the brand.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

I think it's pretty interesting because back when I started, essentially 30 years ago, You'd have to win five Grammys to be relevant. You'd have to be on a TV show that lasted 10 years on CBS. You'd have to have four or five big blockbuster movies. I think the problem now for talent is we live in a world of instant celebrity, which you would know more than I do.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

I think it's pretty interesting because back when I started, essentially 30 years ago, You'd have to win five Grammys to be relevant. You'd have to be on a TV show that lasted 10 years on CBS. You'd have to have four or five big blockbuster movies. I think the problem now for talent is we live in a world of instant celebrity, which you would know more than I do.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

Someone we've never heard of today, legitimately in 30 days could have 50 million people following them on YouTube. They become hot for the moment. So what happens with that is We have, as someone who represents brands and companies, we have so many more people to choose from. It used to be very Casablanca-esque, line up the usual suspects.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

Someone we've never heard of today, legitimately in 30 days could have 50 million people following them on YouTube. They become hot for the moment. So what happens with that is We have, as someone who represents brands and companies, we have so many more people to choose from. It used to be very Casablanca-esque, line up the usual suspects.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

And it'd be the same 10 girls, 10 guys, 10 athletes that everyone cared about. Now, how quickly can we get on board that train that when someone has a quick hit that goes viral and all of a sudden they're number one, we can't wait six months to do a spot. We got to do something now. Both of our good friend Gary really talks about that all the time at VaynerMedia, which is, What are you doing?

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

And it'd be the same 10 girls, 10 guys, 10 athletes that everyone cared about. Now, how quickly can we get on board that train that when someone has a quick hit that goes viral and all of a sudden they're number one, we can't wait six months to do a spot. We got to do something now. Both of our good friend Gary really talks about that all the time at VaynerMedia, which is, What are you doing?

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

We got to pounce on this idea now. We got to pounce on the moment now. How do we create a piece of content that pairs with what's going on to stay relevant? But I think, you know, it's very hard if your talent, like I said, you know, Brad Pitt's not going anywhere, but he's really not on social media. So he's great to be the face of Brioni. Right.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

We got to pounce on this idea now. We got to pounce on the moment now. How do we create a piece of content that pairs with what's going on to stay relevant? But I think, you know, it's very hard if your talent, like I said, you know, Brad Pitt's not going anywhere, but he's really not on social media. So he's great to be the face of Brioni. Right.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

But is he great to be the face of a new drink that needs people to, you know, post constantly and be out there constantly? Right. But even if you look at what happened a year ago, two years ago, Lizzo was hot. And she kind of faded and then Ice Spice was hot. And she kind of faded and now Dochi's hot.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

But is he great to be the face of a new drink that needs people to, you know, post constantly and be out there constantly? Right. But even if you look at what happened a year ago, two years ago, Lizzo was hot. And she kind of faded and then Ice Spice was hot. And she kind of faded and now Dochi's hot.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

So very few people are Lady Gaga who, yes, she has ebbs and flows, but she's relevant for the past 15, 20 years. You know? But a lot of those people now, whether it's TV, film, sports, who have kind of ebb and flows, but kind of have been in that pop cultural zeitgeist, are starting their own brands. They want equity. They don't want even $5 million to be in a Super Bowl ad.

The Money Mondays
How Celebs Lose Millions by Saying “No” | Ryan Schinman & DJ Irie 🥂 EP117

So very few people are Lady Gaga who, yes, she has ebbs and flows, but she's relevant for the past 15, 20 years. You know? But a lot of those people now, whether it's TV, film, sports, who have kind of ebb and flows, but kind of have been in that pop cultural zeitgeist, are starting their own brands. They want equity. They don't want even $5 million to be in a Super Bowl ad.