Saagar Enjeti

And how they work for them depends on who's

who's kind of has more power within the click at that moment.

And how do you know that you have to be on the end?

You have to be on the inside.

It's just, it's the same way with any other network.

And that's why ignoring that piece of the story, you know, makes... So, look, I think Americans want to know if Trump knew about this massive pedophile ring.

I think that's probably the most suggestive thing in these emails.

Epstein certainly, you know, insinuates multiple times, explicitly states, I have dirt on Trump that could bring him down, right?

And he's always teasing this to this New York Times reporter.

He's talking to Bannon about it.

He's talking to Bannon about it right up until the point that he ends up in prison and then...

Dead, which is interesting in and of itself.

Right.

So but is it a question of just the like horror and morality, which I mean, I don't want to minimize that.

Right.

That's very important and horrifying.

I think many people are horrified by it.

Or is it a question of is the president of the United States compromised in some significant way by Israel and also here by Russia, right?

Because this is a point you always make, Ryan.

Even if Epstein is bluffing, clearly people thought –