Sabrina Zohar

I don't like that you say this, I'm going to go.

You don't say what I want, so I'm going to leave.

No, no, no, no.

That's just rigidity.

But what I am saying is if I'm not seeing progress and if I'm not seeing that this person has any kind of depth that we can get there, I'm not going to continue to waste my time.

It didn't work in childhood.

It's not going to work now.

Your lived experience isn't everyone else's, right?

And that's what you're saying.

And it's funny, birthdays mean a lot to me for the exact opposite because no one made them important for me.

My mom was the only thing, God, I remember, this is just to show you like how little things can add up.

I was nine and this was when my dad, he would not buy us anything.

He used money as a means of control.

And so he would have his girlfriends that he had and they would come and go, oh, your dad didn't buy you this?

And I would just cry being like, no, my father won't give me like anything to go buy at school.

So no, he didn't buy me that.

And my mom saved up money and she took me to Ross.

And she said, you can buy anything you want.

And I remember going through the aisles and picking all these things.

And then she was behind me putting things back because she knew she couldn't afford it.