Sacha Barbagat

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240 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 29 May

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The Briefing · Why John Safran is comfortable in the uncomfortable · 29 May 2026 podcast

And I think that's why you've been so successful is that you're doing things that people ordinarily wouldn't do.

Like you said, in the context of what we're seeing now, it's probably not something that you would do, but it's not necessarily the action so much.

It's the context in which we exist.

I do want to talk about

squat.

So you wrote a book about your week squatting in Kanye West's house.

And you did set out as part of this to get a better understanding of Kanye following his anti-Semitic comments.

Now, I know you would have talked about it a lot, but I'm interested for our audience for you to take us to his quote unquote abandoned mansion.

What was it actually like inside?

Oh, an amphitheater.

Well, then could we take from that that your work, your documentaries, the pieces that you do, it's intertwined with actually who you are because you talked right at the start about how, you know, you brought the picture of your ex-girlfriend to the voodoo place and said, let's put a voodoo spell on my ex-girlfriend.

And you've been crucified in the Philippines.

You tried to join the Ku Klux Klan.

You've been baptized.

All of these things, it's kind of like,

You're exploring them for your own interest and it just happens to also be your work.

Like is there a separation between the work you put out and who you are as a person, do you think?

Yeah.

your new project, which is Shut Your Big Fat Mouth, John Safran.

Now, you explore the idea of free speech and can we be offended and the push and pull between we should have free speech in a democracy versus we need to protect the most vulnerable in our community by putting limits on free speech and what people can say and how people can be offended.

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