Sagar Enjeti

with the Republicans is while many people are fleeing the Republican Party, in particular, many of these independent or nor swing voters, not just swing, non-identified Trump voters, the actual Republican base is all in for Trump.

I mean, do you remember these very recently, these Indiana Senate races that were happening where some of these Indiana Republicans crossed Trump?

They all lost, okay?

So the actual MAGA people, they're still all in.

And that's just a caveat that I wanna make very clear.

Like Trump is still the chief of the declining.

In fact, it might be more powerful because at this point, if you're still all in for Trump, there's literally nothing he can do, including shooting someone on Fifth Avenue for which they will decline.

And so that actually leads a very good place, I think, for the Democratic Party.

I would compare it,

I'm trying to think maybe the 1970s where like McGovern, this is a good example.

So the 1970s, the entire post Watergate Democratic Party was having a tough time, especially after Jimmy Carter, kind of figuring out like what we're going to do.

And what they did is it opened up this huge space for remember the Reagan Democrat?

That was like a thing back in the 1980s.

Really what it was was an inverse rejection of kind of the embrace of the new left and this Democratic Party, which had no real identity.

There was a very hardcore base of people who supported it, but not enough to create like a majority coalition, which is really what all these people decided to do when they voted for Reagan.

even if some of them even didn't even agree with their policy.

I would compare it now to the other.

So you have a very, very small slice of the country, which is still very much all in and believing, but it leaves all of this open, negative polarization space, which is the defining politics of our era, towards the Democratic Party.

They're not like them, but they don't like the Republicans at all.

It kind of very similar to the 2024 dynamic.