Sally Hayden
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649 appearances
5 recordings
3 series
first heard Apr 2026
last heard 21 Jun
Sally Hayden’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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And she ended up walking with her children to safety, so...
It was really astounding, actually, that I met these two women.
They definitely had no communication.
There was no way to get between these two places.
And they both had this really just extraordinary story of suddenly coming up with a way to try and escape from this situation and to protect their children.
I think I counted 38.
But not for the book, just nine for the book.
Yeah, so I met Zainabou, also maybe I'm mispronouncing her name, but I think it's Zainabou, in a town called Gwoza in northeast Nigeria in 2017.
And so I don't know how much people know about the situation there, but Boko Haram, I'm sure they've heard of them from the Chibok kidnappings, which I think was 2014, right?
Yeah.
when more than nearly 300 girls were kidnapped from a school.
But actually that's, you know, only a tiny, tiny, tiny tip of the iceberg.
Like there's been huge ongoing numbers of kidnappings.
millions of people displaced.
Like the full dachshund isn't even known because a lot of this area remains unsafe or inaccessible.
And so Boko Haram were kind of carrying out an insurgency and, you know, continue to, but it's kind of... But they target women and girls.
Yeah, well, also killing men.
So a lot of the time what they would do is, which is what happened with Zainaboo's case, that they'll take over the town, they'll just kill all the men.
And yeah, women and girls are liable to be forced into marriage or just, you know, different abuses.
And so...
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